Cheap ibanez's are way better, I think most LTDs have painted necks for a reason, you probably wouldn't want to buy it if you saw the wood underneath.

The HZ's are maybe a bit better the cheap iby pups but there is only one HZ model used for bridge and neck so I find the neck pup useless.

 

Cheap ibanez's are way better, I think most LTDs have painted necks for a reason, you probably wouldn't want to buy it if you saw the wood underneath.

My MH-1000 had a painted neck and I removed it and it looked fine. Perfectly quartersawn 3 piece maple neck.

 

i personally think it dumb how esp has to brand there cheaper guitars ltd
and ill never buy something branded ltd.

 

What's wrong with 'LTD'? In fact, what's in a name?

 

They are not bad for the money, What models do you have in mind???

 

BTW if you're getting floyd then don't touch LTD.

 

In the sub £400 range, do any guitars have good floyds? All I hear from people about this price range is don't get this guitar, the tremolo sucks.

 

I dont think there is much difference between them. A cheap guitar is a cheap guitar, they are probably both made in the same factory.

 

They're both made in Indonesia I think.

 

hey there nothing wrong with ltd im not downing the guitars i imagine they play nice......i just dont understand why they cant put esp on there guitars...i mean ibanez has ibanez even on there cheaper models

 

It's all about the image that companies are trying to uphold. Cheaply made fenders are branded squires and cheaply made gibson's are branded epiphone. Those companies feel they have an image to uphold so they reserve their brand name for "quality" guitars.
Ibanez doesn't feel the same way obviously.
You don't just see it in the guitar world.
Lexus=Toyota
Acura=Honda
Etc.

It's really just a way to sell to certain markets. No biggie really.
I'd buy an LTD. I don't think I could bring myself to buy one of the agathis-bodied ones though. I do really like the vipers. I plan on getting one someday.

 

I think some LTD's are the best bang for the buck.

 

I own an ESP M-II Urban Camo, and it is hands down the best playing guitar I own. I've had people pick it up and play it and comment on how it seems to play itself.

I've played quite a few ESPs and LTDs, and I think LTDs are a great buy for the dollar.

The LTD Deluxe series, you can't go wrong. I'm sure there are some LTDs out there that blow, though.

 

I own an ESP M-II Urban Camo, and it is hands down the best playing guitar I own. I've had people pick it up and play it and comment on how it seems to play itself

I was mentioning on another forum how nice that model looked and they were all like 'eww', but to me it looks like a wonderful exception to the rule of me not opting for EMGs or finished necks. If I had the money I'd seriously consider one of them. They look like they really shred.

 

I just got a lefty M-50 for $100. It has an unpainted neck, and its a pretty kick ass guitar as it is now. It came with a Duncan Distortion so I can't comment on the stock pups. All it needs now is a good setup and this thing will be rockin.

 

Buy an Edwards.

 

My budget doesn't cater for the price of one of those and/or the price of shipping from Japan.

 

At the end of the day you get what you pay for.

A £300~£400 Jackson, Ibanez, Fender, etc are all fairly decent guitars but not as good as £2000 custom job.

If your budget doesn't stretch to something more expensive don't worry. A guitar is often as good as it is setup. Find sonething that feels nice and is set up well

my $0.02

 

£400? If it was my money, i'd get a MIJ Ibanez. As much as I liked the m-302, it hardly got played because I prefered the ibanezes.

 

I've never played one that i liked better than an ibanez in the same price bracket really. They're ok, but the necks always feel inferior to me.

 

LTD Deluxe models are superb, given the price, but like most companies the cheaper end of their range is really hit and miss - some OK, some dogs.

 

Ltd guitars are very good,
i got an V350, and the guitar its lovely. its mahogany body/neck.
the only thing that suck is the tremolo, that trs2 kind, like most "cheap" guitars do.
the wood and paint is flawless.
how do i know the wood?
i had to paint one in the past.
i changed the tremolo for a OFR and the pickups for an emg 81 and 85 and its awesome!
the wood, paint and sound was worth the inversion.

 

i played an LTD kirk hammett siggy and it just didnt play right. the only thing i could put it down to was not very good fretwork cos it just felt lumpy

 

I played an LTD KH a few years ago and couldn't bare it, I don't remember exactly what I hated so much about it other than the painted neck was very sticky.

 

Cheap ESP watch:
Music Uno Dos Tres currently has the ESP F-400FM for $240. This is a $700 guitar. EMG81's, Earvana nut, tune-o-matic, custom inlays, 24 frets.

It's ugly as sin, but for that price, you better jump on it. It's likely a misprint on their website. If I had more than $100 to my name I would so buy one D:

 

If I was in the states now with the money I have in US$ I certainly would jump on it. (Bumped in case anyone else is interested).

 

I had a M 200 neck thru black cherry

It was a great guitar when I got it outta the box

then I noticed the little things

their licensed trem is a piece of crap, couldnt stay in tune and the I could not release the string to change a string

flawed design is the outcome

their esp ltd pickups are not great at all not dynamic, very lifeless sounding

I couldnt get a nice sound outta it

on the other hand I have an edwards series guitar

i think its a e-hr and loadsa numbers after it

great dynamic guitar btw its got a quilted top (looks absolutley stunning)