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I live in Australia and ordered a JEM Jr. White at a local guitar store in February. They said it would arrive by early April, so when it got to around the 10th of April I called them up and asked if my Jr. was available to be picked up.
They said it had been delayed because of the new CITES Law about endangered rosewood, and it was probably being stopped at every port it went to around the world and getting checked, and would arrive early June.
I just picked it up yesterday and didn't open it until I got home. I opened it and was confused, as the fretboard looked a lot lighter and redder than what I had seen on videos/websites etc.
After some googling I read on the Ibanez website that all Jr.s are now being made with Jatoba instead of Rosewood, to avoid holdups in transit I'm guessing.
My problem is that I really hate the look of the guitar with the lighter/redder Jatoba wood rather than the darker rosewood. It still sounds fine, but I hate the look.
I was not notified by the guitar store about the wood change.
Does anyone have any ideas on what I could do about it?? (pic included)
 

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Is this a trick question?

You can permanently stain it darker if it's that important to you, just get some dark wood stain and follow the instructions on the bottle. Wear gloves and use a cloth to apply it rather than a brush.

I think it looks fine but I have many guitars, all with Rosewood fretboards and some are really light and some really dark, but most are somewhere in between.
 

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Will that ink stain just the wood and not the vine inlay? I'd like to keep the inlay. Also thanks for your help!
The ink/dyes only effect the unsealed wood. The inlay can be wiped off or cleaned with mineral spirits, etc. as needed.

Yes that is a "penetrating stain", same applies as posted above.

Local HomeDepot sells tons of the brand linked below, their website is a good reference with "DIRECTIONS" section :)
https://www.minwax.com/wood-products/stains/minwax-wood-finish
 

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Alright I'll probably try that, thanks for all your help! No-one is talking about the wood change so I struggled to find any info on it. I wonder why that is?
 

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No notice of spec changes is sent out, I found out they changed VWH fretboard to rosewood when the first one came in. I realized they changed the specs on the Woody JEM by looking at it at the show, then forgot to change them on my site till the first ones just came in.
 

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I had the same sort of encounter yesterday. Have been after the RGAT62 which looks great with the dark fretboard. However, after buying it online and going to the store to collect, I was greeted with a garish looking guitar. In fact, the wood actually resembled something more like cheap plywood. It could have been anything (probably was). I'm scooting around trying to find someone who does have a dark one.

One of the shops I rang, (U.K), went as far as to say that they are sure Ibanez will soon be replacing the jatoba wood with some sort of ebony once current stocks have gone. I don't know if anyone can confirm or deny this? I did wonder about staining it, but in all honesty....the wood looked nasty......not something I was interested in owning!

What i want....

What I was offered....
 

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Just wait, Jatoba darkens A LOT when exposed to sunlight. My Jatoba fretboard has darkened nicely and is now darker than my rosewood fretboards. Compared to rosewood it will be less brown but more of a reddish, almost blood-like tone though. So yeah, new Jatoba looks like ****, aged though it looks awesome.
You can probably fasten this process with the good old vinegar/steel wool stain, last resort: dye it with india ink.
I also think it's quite missleading to use pictures with fresh jatoba while in reality it will look very different from that within a few days. Maybe the should put the guitars into the light for a few days before shipping them or at least inform the customer about that .
 

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I had the same sort of encounter yesterday. Have been after the RGAT62 which looks great with the dark fretboard. However, after buying it online and going to the store to collect, I was greeted with a garish looking guitar. In fact, the wood actually resembled something more like cheap plywood. It could have been anything (probably was). I'm scooting around trying to find someone who does have a dark one.

One of the shops I rang, (U.K), went as far as to say that they are sure Ibanez will soon be replacing the jatoba wood with some sort of ebony once current stocks have gone. I don't know if anyone can confirm or deny this? I did wonder about staining it, but in all honesty....the wood looked nasty......not something I was interested in owning!

What i want....

What I was offered....
wow, that's night and day different
 

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This is what dry, untreated jatoba looks like in broad daylight after about 2 weeks of aging under room light.
I've read somewhere that it'll get the final color after about 4-6 months but don't quote me on that.

EDIT: and another one under room light.
you have any photos from when you first got it?
 

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you have any photos from when you first got it?
Sadly not, but it was way lighter in color. Closer to the ones posted over here!
I guess the problem would be solved if Ibanez would let the wood oxidze in the sun for a few days before assembling the guitars because what you buy differs a lot from what you will end up with.

To be honest, I was hesistant to buy this guitar and thought about sending it back until I noticed the fretboard was changing.
I will try the vinegar/steelwool stain on the triangle beyond the nut. I heard Jatoba can be permanently made pitch black by doing so.
Then I'll decide if I wanna stick with the darkened Jatoba or ebonize the whole thing.
 

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Just wait, Jatoba darkens A LOT when exposed to sunlight. My Jatoba fretboard has darkened nicely and is now darker than my rosewood fretboards. Compared to rosewood it will be less brown but more of a reddish, almost blood-like tone though. So yeah, new Jatoba looks like ****, aged though it looks awesome.
You can probably fasten this process with the good old vinegar/steel wool stain, last resort: dye it with india ink.
I also think it's quite missleading to use pictures with fresh jatoba while in reality it will look very different from that within a few days. Maybe the should put the guitars into the light for a few days before shipping them or at least inform the customer about that .
Wow, thank you very much for mentioning this. You're the first person that's told me that. Very interesting! I agree....they should either inform you that it will change, or let them air for a few days. At very least, the online shops should put their own pictures up. One store that I rang were completely unaware until they opened a box while I was on the phone to them. His reaction was..."Oh my god, what's this??" lol

This is what dry, untreated jatoba looks like in broad daylight after about 2 weeks of aging under room light.
I've read somewhere that it'll get the final color after about 4-6 months but don't quote me on that.

EDIT: and another one under room light.
Again, thank you for posting that. That does indeed look much nicer.

I have now bought the jatoba one, and got then to knock £20 off of the price due to the incorrect photo. I have a friend who owns a guitar repair shop and they are going to do it for that price. I much prefer the colour your guitar has turned, but in all honesty, I still don't think it's dark enough for my own preference. It's just the wrong shade to go with a reddish brown imo.

Thanks again!
 

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I live in Australia and ordered a JEM Jr. White at a local guitar store in February. They said it would arrive by early April, so when it got to around the 10th of April I called them up and asked if my Jr. was available to be picked up.
They said it had been delayed because of the new CITES Law about endangered rosewood, and it was probably being stopped at every port it went to around the world and getting checked, and would arrive early June.
I just picked it up yesterday and didn't open it until I got home. I opened it and was confused, as the fretboard looked a lot lighter and redder than what I had seen on videos/websites etc.
After some googling I read on the Ibanez website that all Jr.s are now being made with Jatoba instead of Rosewood, to avoid holdups in transit I'm guessing.
My problem is that I really hate the look of the guitar with the lighter/redder Jatoba wood rather than the darker rosewood. It still sounds fine, but I hate the look.
I was not notified by the guitar store about the wood change.
Does anyone have any ideas on what I could do about it?? (pic included)
Dear friends i live with guitar from 30 years ago if you don't like the light color of your jatoba fretboards put some lineum oil every day on it the fretboard became most strong the wood became most darker and more beutifull ( a liuther told me that secret) :)
 
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