very true, i had a carvin x100b for a while, great clean channle very moldable with outside distortion. They are great heads, and they are damn loud.slowcmfrtablscrw said:if you've got a loud drummer, .... and having to stay on the cheap side. I'd go with a Carvin x100b head. I've seen this head and a carvin 4x12 cab go for $300. here in Southern California. Hope you've got pedals, etc.