Have you considered Laney Amps? I hear that they're very good for the price.
Not all of them. The first model was the worst of the lot but still not nearly as thin as the 2205/2210s were. The Dual Reverb was okay but you can't turn the clipping diodes in it off so you are stuck with them if you don't like the way they sound, and the SL-X just owns (even better if you get one with a Drake transformer).phlame said:The JCM900's suck get a JCM800 for sure.
Buy an older 900. The newer 900s use cheaper parts and if you get an older one you might get one with a Drake transformer instead of a Dagnall. And I am not sure but I have been told that the Dagnall transformers in the newer Marshalls are much cheaper than the Dagnalls in the 900s as well.Chud said:There's a few JCM900 SL-X's knocking around forsale around at the moment, which is why i'd like to know if it's worth buying one of these, a JCM2000 DSL100 or a reissue JCM900 (which Marshall are now doing)
You said there were a few of them kicking around... **** or some online store?Chud said:Well, i would try them both out, except it's hard to get JCM900's nowadays, especially the model i'd like to buy.
I thought the 900s sounded much better than the 800s with clipping diodes personally. The 800s sounded thinner and did not have enough gain to work with clipping diodes, where the 900 and Jubilee sound was a bit dirtier and did the job. The problem with clipping diodes is that they are always on and you cannot turn them off, and the end result limits the varied tones you could otherwise get from the amp.eviltwin said:A lot of rubbish is said about "diode clipping", Marshall started using this in some of the JCM800, those & the JCM900 dual reverb use hybrid cascaded gain stages. This even applies to the Jubilee and Slash signature JCM800. The JCM900 has a preamp with op-amps, a boost channel with diode (LED!) clipping and pre-boost EQ into tubes, with semi active EQ powered by an ECC83 (for more info check http://www.thinlizzy.de/Guitar/earlymarshalls.html or look for the electrical schematics at http://www.drtube.com/marshall.htm)
Wrong. The reverb in the JCM 900s is completely solid state. No tubes are used for reverb. The third tube is called a phase invertor, but some of the tube is still used in the preamp section along with the first two.The JCM900 has three ECC83 "preamp" tubes, only one is actually used in the preamp (but it's used as a double triode giving you two gain stages)
The second is used (again as double triode) as reverb driver and after reverb recovery
The third EEC83 is used in the power amp section. Each triode side driving a pair of EL34s.
But JCM800s are a little more expensive and gain mods are expensive. If you are modding it for gain, might as well get a SL-X.Gresh said:I've gotta side with the JCM 800 crowd, and I'd suggest getting a 50 watter as well. Look for a used one and spend some cash on some mods or a good overdrive pedal. I had a modded TSL and it sounded great, but 100 watts was just way too much and most marshalls sound like crap at lower volumes. I'd even suggest going lower than 50 watts, something like a cornford hellcat at 35watts...but those are 3x the price. Low wattage tube amps rule in my book, but folks are right on the transformer issues, one of the best mods you can make to a decent marshall.