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So ya...here's the deal.

I graduated high school in 2010, and I've been teaching guitar at a local music store since 2007, and now I work at Best Buy in the mobile phone dept.

I've been going to college since 2008, and I'm almost done with my degree in Fire Science Tech/EMS, only needing my paramedics license since I'm an EMT.

My problem is that me and my girlfriend (she graduates 2012) have a 9 month old baby, and I need a better job. Hell, I'm even willing to go out of state to get a good job. I can't finish college yet, because I need money to pay rent and bills. So I've come to an impass and have 3 options

1. work my current jobs
(One is 21$ hr, other is 8.50$ hr) I work the 8.50 job 4X more than the 21$ job.

2. Do anything I can (including move) to find another job, one that pays well
(if such a job exists)

3. Finish school and risk not having money to pay bills.


I'm asking this, because I feel close to alot of you guys now, and about 5 mos ago I had a big falling out with my family...so I kind of really value your opinions.

Does anyone know of good jobs? I considered music as well...I've become very talented at guitar through years of dedicated practice...idk guys.
 

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Finish school while working is the ideal and realistic solution. You're almost done and the degree will help improve your job marketability, etc. Moving is a huge waste of dollars, resources and time. Reach out to some friends/family with help babysitting so you can both work and study. Good luck... glen
 

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Stick with it! I'm active duty military, commute 2 hours per day to work, have a family, and take 2-3 classes per term. All of this while trying to sell a house!
 

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Stay in college if at all possible. It's short term loss vs long term gain. You may stuggle for now, but in he long run it will hopefully lead you to a better career rather than just "a job"

But the most important thing is to make sure you look after your new family, talk with your girlfriend about the future and your thoughts.
 

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There's a lot of competition out there on the job market. A 41 year old friend of mine, went back to school and graduated from Rutgers with a degree in medical engineering a year and a half ago. He'd moved back in with his Mother, and he just found a job using his degree a month ago. Before that he was working the Geek Squad at Best Buy while going to school! I own my own business and during the Summer things historically get slow for me, and this year with the economy, I had to get a second job. I work four over nights a week plus 7 days at my store! Working sucks, but you gotta do it! The economy isn't going to get any better any time sooner either, so I would stick the school out. Even to get sh!tty jobs, it's going to be better to be more qualified than the next guy!

Also maybe apply to as many jobs as possible, to see what can be done to get a better position...

I would think relocating would only be an option to be closer to family where they can help you. As long as you don't screw over Mom and Dad (or hers as well), I'm pretty sure they'd be more than happy to help you achieve your degree...

Until then good luck man! :D
 

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Hey Bryan, I feel your pain, and I assume many more of us do too........ I would suggest that you check out the Job postings at St. Louis Community College in Meramec....... I just looked on line and there are SEVERAL postings including a mail clerk. I know it sounds lame, but it pays decent (about $500/wk) and colleges typically have VERY attractive benefits packages.

https://jobs.stlcc.edu/postings/1292

I would also check into the local Casino's as they usually have their own medical/emergency personnel on staff. If you need help putting together resume's or the like, let us know......someone will be here to help!!!

Ryc

http://www.harrahsstlouis.com/casinos/harrahs-stlouis/hotel-casino/property-home.shtml

http://www.lumiereplace.com/

http://www.casinoqueen.com/

http://www.ameristar.com/St_Charles.aspx

http://www.rivercity.com/
 

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First and foremost, congrats on the baby, and, your work ethic! It's rough and you're taking the bull by the horns...a lot of people in your position have just walked away.

At 39 I find myself more and more on autopilot. Each month is an accomplishment when I'm able to keep the house and pay the bills. My wife was laid off with many others from a large bank where there was "job security." After 14 years she was shown what job security is. She is now a stay at home mom because we can't afford daycare for our 3 year old and soon-to-be newborn. I make it work by working any overtime and by doing things I love...photo, video and audio. I do the best I can to book weddings and bands...even a few photo gigs a year will help float us a couple months. Between the 4 hour commute to work, putting in 10 hours, working with photo and video as I get it, there is very little time for me. Whatever time I get is spent with my son.

As for you, keep doing what you're doing. One thing I will recommend is try to get with big name co's. I never had the money or the time to get a degree, which I hate...even though I did take classes here and there. On my resume, I am lucky to have some very large co's. For you, since you have PDA experience, try to get with att or verizon...not the local little shops...but the actual co's. Try getting in as a tech, starting out as a cust. service rep on the phone answering billing questions if you have to. I know you're going for the EMT but at least this way your rez will look great and you have a backup plan.
 

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I've thought about going the military route...but my family depends on me too often for that...

Ryc, wow. Great help man. I really appreciate the detailed recommendations, that really helped as well I'm looking into the mail clerk one.

Guys, all of your input is greatly appreciated. Can't say enough how nice it is to always have my jemsite family around.
 

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yeah forget the military! especially if your family needs you! i'm also a firm believer that no one's life is worth the pennies they pay you and the BS you have to deal with. sure, you're protecting this country but this country is so out of control.....just don't do it. I will not allow my kids to join the military...not for this messed up country. I love this country but I hate the ones "running it" and telling us how it's going to be. It would be different if this was the country our ancestors built...but it's turned for much worse.
 

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Well, actually I have a different view than that somewhat. I believe in the military-it keeps us safe. Without them, IE us, we would be living under a different society no doubt....

I know the frusterations that exist in our govt....but seriously, put it in perspective. We have so many things we take for granted. We loom past what we HAVE, and cry about what we don't have (which isn't much)

I'm not in for a debate because I'll be honest, I don't know much about politics. But I will say that if we appreciated what we have a little more, maybe things would turn around.


-negativity breeds negativity. Positivity triumphs over negativity and breaks the cycle-
 

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yeah forget the military! especially if your family needs you! i'm also a firm believer that no one's life is worth the pennies they pay you and the BS you have to deal with. sure, you're protecting this country but this country is so out of control.....just don't do it. I will not allow my kids to join the military...not for this messed up country. I love this country but I hate the ones "running it" and telling us how it's going to be. It would be different if this was the country our ancestors built...but it's turned for much worse.
That's some really misguided info! You're looking at it from a civilian point of view, and really have no idea of what it's really like. There are separate branches. Some of those branches are right there on the frontline, while a few others are not. "Pennies they pay you?" Where did that come from. When you add up the base pay, OHA/BAH, COLA, BAS, and any enlistment/re-enlistment bonuses--the pay is pretty darn good. The bennies are second-to-none. Free healthcare for the entire family. Free tuition to pursue a college education, and that's not even including the G.I. Bill which is now transferable to family members. Free clothing allowance. Travel pay. Yearly raises. There's much more to it than you civilians realize. All you guys see is what the media wants you to see. The Air Force is the way to go of all the branches. We launch our airplanes out from several hundreds of miles away from the "conflicts."
What BS do we deal with that you are referring to? Sure, we have to deal with our share of it, but no more than any civilian job can dish out.
Our country being "out of control?" What's that got to do with it? If you flip burgers at McDonalds--the country is still out of control.
I think you've watched waaaay too many 'Nam movies. It isn't like that any more--hasn't been since the 70s.
I hate to sound like a recruitment brochure, but that post was just too far from the truth that I had to pipe in with some clarification.
 

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Let's keep the thread civil fellas, no need to get all "6fingers" in here.

Bryan, I know what you're going through and believe me, the payoff will be inmense once you finish your degree. I was able to cross that milestone in my life and it meant working a full time job while going to school at night full time. The day I received my bachelor's degree, my son was just a week old and I was so relieved that I was able to get to that point to make sure that I could provide for my family.

Sometimes temp companies will offer some enticing opportunities either in your field or in an office environment (part-time basis). I remember working a part-time job a long time ago that would pay me $18 an hour and the assignments were cake.

Keep your chin up and keep your eye on the prize. Things will get better.

Jimmy:smile:
 

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Bryancap - I couldn't agree with you more. I come from a military family. I almost joined the airforce and navy but they wouldn't have me due to eyesight...I wanted to fly. My uncle was in the airforce, is a trainer with the blue angels, but now flies for commercial airlines. My grandfather was a tank commander in WWII and vietnam.

Alaska - you misunderstood. I'm against the government's greed and massive inefficiency, not the military. When I said BS I meant what the soldiers have to deal with. I go up to military personnel when I see them on the train and say thank you. When my grandfather came back from vietnam civilians and government treated him like crap, as if it was his fault. I don't want to reroute this thread, but felt the need to clarify, that is all.
 

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That's some really misguided info! You're looking at it from a civilian point of view, and really have no idea of what it's really like. There are separate branches. Some of those branches are right there on the frontline, while a few others are not. "Pennies they pay you?" Where did that come from. When you add up the base pay, OHA/BAH, COLA, BAS, and any enlistment/re-enlistment bonuses--the pay is pretty darn good. The bennies are second-to-none. Free healthcare for the entire family. Free tuition to pursue a college education, and that's not even including the G.I. Bill which is now transferable to family members. Free clothing allowance. Travel pay. Yearly raises. There's much more to it than you civilians realize. All you guys see is what the media wants you to see. The Air Force is the way to go of all the branches. We launch our airplanes out from several hundreds of miles away from the "conflicts."
What BS do we deal with that you are referring to? Sure, we have to deal with our share of it, but no more than any civilian job can dish out.
Our country being "out of control?" What's that got to do with it? If you flip burgers at McDonalds--the country is still out of control.
I think you've watched waaaay too many 'Nam movies. It isn't like that any more--hasn't been since the 70s.
I hate to sound like a recruitment brochure, but that post was just too far from the truth that I had to pipe in with some clarification.
they dont call it the "chair-force" for nuthin ;)

Good post. Hit pretty much everything. I just wanted to add if you can get into a specialty program, your pay outside of the military goes up quite a bit... I had to put up with enormous amounts of crap in the Navy, but Im sittin pretty now... Id say avoid the navy and army like the plague right now if you did decide to go the military route (which you dont seem to be interested in anyway...)

Bryan, have you looked into getting student loans/grants yet???
with a child you should most likely qualify for a pell grant...
http://www.ed.gov/programs/fpg/index.html

and for some "tough love", it sounds like you really need to sell some of those really expensive guitars you have and stop buying guitars until you get back on your feet dude.
 

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Bryancap - I couldn't agree with you more. I come from a military family. I almost joined the airforce and navy but they wouldn't have me due to eyesight...I wanted to fly. My uncle was in the airforce, is a trainer with the blue angels, but now flies for commercial airlines. My grandfather was a tank commander in WWII and vietnam.

Alaska - you misunderstood. I'm against the government's greed and massive inefficiency, not the military. When I said BS I meant what the soldiers have to deal with. I go up to military personnel when I see them on the train and say thank you. When my grandfather came back from vietnam civilians and government treated him like crap, as if it was his fault. I don't want to reroute this thread, but felt the need to clarify, that is all.
Thanks for the clarification! It just came across wrong, I guess. Some people just have a misunderstanding of what military life is like, and I read it that way. Even before I joined in'90, I thought it was all terrible--here I am 21 years later and loving it.
On a related side note, Bran seems to be doing pretty good as-is, since he's been snatching up high end Ibbies left and right...
 
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