[klp2332]

What are good Pitch Harmonizers? I know eventide has a few good ones, but they are somewhat too expensive and not very popular here in Hong Kong. Are there any other racks or effects box that have them? I will bring them to performances.

Any Suggestions?


Thanks in Advanced

 

[hollowpointsteve]

I'm not too sure of the full range of things that the Eventide can pull off, but in a much smaller, cheaper box the Boss PS-5 will do a few of these things.

I have one which I use for whammy pedal style things, but it will do intelligent pitch shifting to some extent too.

It's a great fun pedal, even if it's not exactly what you're after!

 

[fettouhi]

The whammy pedal is a fun toy. Or you can do as Mattias Eklundh does no pedals at all :twisted:, it's all in your fingers.

Regards

André

 

[WillTubarao]

Just try everything from Digitech.
They're the most resonable and decent Harmonizers IMO.
GSP2101 Artist
GSP2112
GSP2120
IPS-33B
DHP-5000

Tubarão.

 

[WillTubarao]

OR:
RP14d
RP20
RP21
and others...

 

[JESTER700]

Of the "old school" IVL units, there were also the DHP-33 and DHP-55.

Do the newer Digitech units use the same algorithms? I was under the impression that they didn't, which is why auctions for the old IVL units go so high (two 33s just went for $300-ish each). I'd love a harmonizer that sounds better than my Boss VF-1, but I'll only use it as a toy, so I don't like the $300 price tag.

 

[klp2332]

I currently have a Vox Tone Labs SE, it has a Pitch Shifter or Intelligent Pitch Shifter and I find it no diffrent from the GNX 3 pitch shifter. I cant seem to find these anywhere:
RP14d
RP20
RP21
GSP2101 Artist
GSP2112
GSP2120
IPS-33B
DHP-5000

Its not on the digitech website. Can you point me in the right direction.

Thanks

 

[JESTER700]

Many are old discontinued units. The IPS-33B was from 1990! But many of the manuals are still available as PDFs from Digitech's site.

 

[klp2332]

Thanks, but are there any new, not very expensive items with Pitch Harmonizing. I really dont need a pitch shifter only a harmonizer. As you may know iam not very good at theory. Lets say I have this.
. . . . . . . . P.H P.H P.H
------------------------
---10--10--10--10--10--
------------------------
------------------------
------------------------
------------------------
. Pitch: B B B
What do i set on my pitch shifter if it works or a harmonizer. What about this:

. . . . P.H . . . P.H . . P.H
--------------------------
-----16/14--16/14--16/4--
--------------------------
--------------------------
--------------------------
--------------------------
pitch: B\A B\A B\A


Now this is for the pitch shifter:
. . . . . . . P.S
------------------------------
------------10--10--10-------
---------7--------------------
------9-----------------------
--X---------------------------
pitch: A/B

Ignore the dots, there only for proper spacing.

I know iam asking alot of questions, but I just hope someone can help me.

 

[JESTER700]

You need to know a little music theory. For instance, what key your tune or solo is in. That will change what notes the harmonizer uses. In the key of C, if you play an E and set it to 3rds it will play a G. But in the key of E it will play a G#.

I don't know what modern units do this. My Boss VF1 does (among a gazillion other things), though not as well as the old Digitech ones. But it's also discontinued.

 

[klp2332]

So there arent any not discontinued pitch harmonizers?

 

[JESTER700]

I don't know. Some current Digitech model might. Eventides do, of course.

 

[markg5150]

What about the Boss PS5 - That looks like fun

 

[klp2332]

Thats a pitch shifter, isnt it?

 

[klp2332]

ok now iam not even sure, is P.H. in For the Love of God, Pinch Harmonic or Pitch Harmonizer. It sounds like a extra note is added, so it should be a harmonizer. But he never steps on any switches in the videos.

 

[JESTER700]

ok now iam not even sure, is P.H. in For the Love of God, Pinch Harmonic or Pitch Harmonizer. It sounds like a extra note is added, so it should be a harmonizer. But he never steps on any switches in the videos.

What kind of video? If live, the sound man might kick it in. If a "music video" - well, do I need to say it?

 

[klp2332]

It was G3-1996 and Live at the Astoria

 

[guitarshredder7]

all in the fingers i say

 

[guitarshredder7]

but i think its pitch shifter

 

[David Ho]

Boss has two different pedals PS-5 (Pitch Shifter) and HR-2 (Harmonist) which can do the following (if I remember correctly):
PS-5, in the fixed pitch mode, gives you a harmonized note which you can select the interval (up to 2 octives). Also available is a pedal mode - with an expression pedal (EV-5) plugged in, you can control your pitch shift so it acts like a whammy pedal.
HR-5 does not have the pedal pitch shift capability, but it can give you 2 different harmonized notes - all you do is select the key you are playing. For example in E minor, you can select one note above your key E (+minor 3rd) and one below (-fifth), you then get a chord-like output.

Of course, neither of these pedals sound as good as the Eventide. The Boss sampling circuits in these pedals have lower sampling rate, and the DSP chips are less sophisticated, therefore the reproduced notes are not as crisp and the pitch is not as precise as the eventide. However, you are talking about the difference between few hundred and few thousand dollars - you get what you pay for...

BTW, the HR-2 is discountinued but many can be found on auction sites.