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There's a noticeable difference in the neck pickup for me. I loved the paf Joe. The satch track is close but still isn't quite the same. Especially coil tapped.
This brings up an interesting question. Should I stick with the PAF Pro and FRED? Mind you, my Satch fandom goes back to when I was like 7 and Blue Dream came out. Those are the pickups I grew up knowing Satch used.

Are the PAF Joe, Mo' Joe, and Satchur8 pickups any good in comparison? Now obviously they're "good" in that they ended up in production guitars and I'm sure Joe used them. But in comparison to the classic configuration, I have no idea what might be more preferable. Unfortunately, YouTube comparison videos seem to be few and far between.

Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?
 

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I have the satchur8 in a mahogany guitar and a basswood guitar. It sounds insanely good, very thick and full tone. It's high output though. The Fred according to DiMarzio has an output of 305, the satchur8 is 375 and has an alnico 8 magnet which gives it the increase in output. It does have nice dynamics for a high output pickup though. Especially with a high pass filter.

I have 2 JS guitars with the mo Joe and they sound excellent. I actually removed the Fred because I didn't care for the tone character. The mo Joe is the Freds bones... With a bit more balls and clarity. It's output is 320. It's the Fred... But with "more". One of my guitars has the mo Joe and paf Joe and it's my favorite for tones with double humbuckers. The paf Joe is by far my favorite neck humbucker. Go to DiMarzio's website and read about them.

I personally wouldn't own a guitar with the Fred, I removed it because it sounded dark or... Flat, it lacked something in tone. Though I loved the singing feedback that the Fred, mo Joe and satchur8 have. For a basswood body... The Mo Joe or satchur8 is a great upgrade.
 

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I have JS guitars with all combinations pretty much FRED PAf Pro, FRED PAF Joe, Mo'Joe PAF Joe, Satch Track Mo'Joe, Satur8 sustainiac. I think that they are all good. can't say one is clearly better but I do really like Mo'Joe PAF Joe a lot. I don't think you'll be disappointed with any of them. My least favorite is Satur8, but I got used to it
 

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I have JS guitars with all combinations pretty much FRED PAf Pro, FRED PAF Joe, Mo'Joe PAF Joe, Satch Track Mo'Joe, Satur8 sustainiac. I think that they are all good. can't say one is clearly better but I do really like Mo'Joe PAF Joe a lot. I don't think you'll be disappointed with any of them. My least favorite is Satur8, but I got used to it
I agree with you on the satchur8, it took a bit to grow on me. But I found I liked it a lot more when I lowered it. It had to be a bit lower than my guitars with the mo Joe. It just drives the preamp noticeably harder, especially with clean channels. But once I found my preferred height I actually loved it.
 

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Time for an update!

So due to some COVID-related issues, my refinish is delayed. So I figured I might as well get her cleaned up, strung up, and play it.







So all of the hardware is new. I cleaned the board and polished the frets as best I could. Re-taped the pickups as well. All in all, it's great for now.

Any tips on getting a brand-new Edge trem arm into the socket? Because brute force isn't working so well. Of course, I could always try MORE.
 

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The bushings on the trem arm are tapered on one end. So keep that in mind. I also had an issue with a brand new genuine Ibanez trem arm for my 540r... Still won't fit correctly. I ordered a red bishop trem arm for it. I am waiting for it still cuz it's coming from Japan. Covid is also causing problems with that 😑. Looks gorgeous though man!
 

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Looks great! What a difference new hardware makes, quite a change from the original stuff. :) I can't remember, did you settle on a color?

And thanks to everyones for the earlier refinishing comments (totally missed those), still loving the purple!

EDIT: Yes, my trem arm was stiff too, I have to wiggle a lot while I push down. Maybe a *tiny* bit of grease or sewing machine oil?
 

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With some brute force, and a small spray of DeoxIT, it's in there now. So onto breaking it in!

I did settle on a color. But I'll keep it under my hat for the time being. It'll get done. Just gonna take longer than I wanted.
 

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I think it'll pop a whole lot more when the refinish is done. But, that has to wait for now. But yes, I am generally not into cosmo hardware. Much prefer black or chrome.
 

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What Locking nut did you find to replace the original one with? I have the same year Js1000 and cant find a new nut.
Rich from Ibanez Rules ended up getting me a nut from a JS100, which mount through the back of the neck. But the height is proving to be an issue. I need some shims to raise the action towards the nut.

Sorry for the lack of updates guys. Not much to report. My refinish had to be delayed due to COVID. I am open to suggestions on who could handle such a job, if anyone has any recommendations.
 

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That's weird because a js100 has a 17" radius finger board where a 1000 has a 10" radius. Schaller offers a 10" radius nut... But you'd still have the problem with it being a rear mount... And it is completely flat on the bottom. Rich is definitely your best bet for a genuine ibanez js nut. He can get Everything else, I imagine he'd be able to order you a nut for like... A js24xx series neck, I would think they were pretty much the same, I could be wrong of course.

I've had a problem with the nut sitting too high with the past 2 custom necks I've had made. I used a perfectly flat sanding block and 80 grit sand paper to carefully sand it down flat. It's tedious, and If you're not carful you can sand it at an angle. But I've never had a better shimmed nut on a guitar. If you just need to shim it higher, gotoh offers shim made of brass with their replacement nuts (their nuts are a 14" radius btw). You may be able to find them. I'm pretty sure stewmac sells floyd nut shim.
 

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Sorry for the lack of updates guys. Not much to report. My refinish had to be delayed due to COVID. I am open to suggestions on who could handle such a job, if anyone has any recommendations.
I'm sure there's folks who will help with the refinish, depending on where you're located going local might be best. I just Google or look on Facebook for them as well as get a sense of who does good work. If you're unable to find anyone I'm happy to help, but with the caveat I'm just a guy with a day job who does this on nights and weekends. :)
 

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That's weird because a js100 has a 17" radius finger board where a 1000 has a 10" radius. Schaller offers a 10" radius nut... But you'd still have the problem with it being a rear mount... And it is completely flat on the bottom. Rich is definitely your best bet for a genuine ibanez js nut. He can get Everything else, I imagine he'd be able to order you a nut for like... A js24xx series neck, I would think they were pretty much the same, I could be wrong of course.

I've had a problem with the nut sitting too high with the past 2 custom necks I've had made. I used a perfectly flat sanding block and 80 grit sand paper to carefully sand it down flat. It's tedious, and If you're not carful you can sand it at an angle. But I've never had a better shimmed nut on a guitar. If you just need to shim it higher, gotoh offers shim made of brass with their replacement nuts (their nuts are a 14" radius btw). You may be able to find them. I'm pretty sure stewmac sells floyd nut shim.
It was Rich who recommended the JS100 nut. In fairness, the radius isn't really an issue. It's the height that is the problem. So I need to get some of the individual shims per side, due to the placement of the JS1000's truss rod adjustment bolt. A standard flat-bottomed nut won't fit on the JS1000 neck due to the bolt being raised in the center. The JS nuts accommodate for this. So, I just need to get those shims and I'll be ok. $10 shipping on a $5 set of shims from Stew-Mac though. That's criminal. So I'll have to wait until there's some other things I need so I can bundle that shipping.

I'm sure there's folks who will help with the refinish, depending on where you're located going local might be best. I just Google or look on Facebook for them as well as get a sense of who does good work. If you're unable to find anyone I'm happy to help, but with the caveat I'm just a guy with a day job who does this on nights and weekends. :smile:
I've casually done the research and ultimately I don't know who to trust for a complete refinish job. The guy I used previous I trust implicitly as he works for a major guitar manufacturer and his work is what is sold to customers on their multi-thousand dollar guitars. Unfortunately, his schedule doesn't allow for side jobs anymore. That may change down the road, it may not. Hence why I was looking for someone else. But again, it's a trust thing. I've been burned before on refinishes. So for something like this, I really need to know the person doing the job knows what they're doing and will do the job right.
 

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I've casually done the research and ultimately I don't know who to trust for a complete refinish job. The guy I used previous I trust implicitly as he works for a major guitar manufacturer and his work is what is sold to customers on their multi-thousand dollar guitars. Unfortunately, his schedule doesn't allow for side jobs anymore. That may change down the road, it may not. Hence why I was looking for someone else. But again, it's a trust thing. I've been burned before on refinishes. So for something like this, I really need to know the person doing the job knows what they're doing and will do the job right.
No worries man, I'm completely with you on that. Yeah, I can't compete with your guy, just a "medium" amateur for now. 8)
 

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I just received that Gotoh nut yesterday and and it came up short just like the Floyd rose R7 did. I cant find anymore with the truss rod access anywhere, Did the one from Rich have the truss rod access? I wonder if I do find one by chance that fits width wise and has a 250mm radius if I could just cut the groove out with a dremel or grinder. Thxs for the help everyone.
 

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So I have been playing with the idea of refinishing some of my guitars. When I came across this I just had to post it. It's 2k clear coat. This stuff is a 2 part catalyst clear coat in a can. It's a legit Urethane that will harden just like any store bought Ibanez. The best part is... it can go over regular spray paint. Whether that is rustolem or... duplicolor.


The link is a guy I follow on youtube. He explains how this clear works, it's not your normal spray paint. He does this stuff for a living, he uses a primer... then uses duplicolor for his base coat (color). That stuff is an acrylic based lacquer so it takes a week to gas off and cure. Then he uses 2k clear a week later to clear coat it. This stuff has changed my whole approach to what I may do. It gives you so many options because it is such a nice clear, and it can clear over anything really... There are a LOT of videos all over youtube about 2k clearing. Also there is a company on amazon named Kustom Canz. They sell urethane in a can products too. The number of colors to choose from is awesome. Though their procedures should be followed at their website on how to achieve the color that is shown in the picture. I figured this is something you would be interested in knowing about projectdc1.
 
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