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Just in the process of setting up my first project studio. I dont know alot about computers, so Im after youre thoughts on the following set-up that I got a quote for:- (bear in mind I'm on a budget - this quote was for $1000 Australian inc assembly and testing + Windows XP )

Pentium 4 3G Intel CPU with 800 FSB Socket
Intel 915PGNL Motherboard 915Chipset
3.5" FDD Panasonic
1G DDR Pc3200 400 Mhz Hynix
2 x 80G HDD Seagate SATA with 7200rpm
TI Deluxe case with 400W Power and USB in front ( this case is super quiet
design with 120mm case fan )
128Mb Guxcbue X300 SVGA Card with PCI Express SVGA
16Speed DVD-/+ RW LG 4163B with Dual Layer
Built in Intel 10/100 Network and Sound and USB 2.0

M-Audio Firewire 410 Audio Interface

*I've also been told varying things on whether 2 harddrives are better - or to get 1 big one and partition it, but I dont know what to do

I'll be using it to record demo versions of songs with programmed drums and a Line 6 POD

I appreciate any feedback you guys may have
 

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Just realised that the quote was for the computer only sorry guys

I'm getting the M-Audio Firewire 410 on top of that (wholesale price at about $500 - I work in a store)

So I just want to know would you recommend 2 hard-drives or one big one partitioned //
and whether that system is ok

OR any other suggestions --- thanks guys
 

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I prefer two seperate drives, even though the harddisk will probably not be a limiting factor. I record my soundfiles to another drive than on which my operating system is. That way, my HD head never needs to scoot over from my soundfile to a swapfile and what not.

If you are going to use virtual synthesizers/instruments I would advise you to upgrade, and maybe even double, the amount of memory.
 

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dysfctn said:
So I just want to know would you recommend 2 hard-drives or one big one partitioned //
and whether that system is ok
For recording, one big partitioned hard drive is a really bad idea. Why?

Imagine this is your partitioned hard drive:

(----PARTITION 1----)(-------------PARTITION 2-------------)

You're recording away on partition 2, when all of a sudden Windows decides it needs to do something on partition 1. The drive's read/write heads will go over to partition 1 to take care of business. Depending on the amount of memory you've got, you might lose your recording in progress.

You're probably better off with a single non-partitioned drive, since at least your OS and recording files will be packed in a little closer... in the event that Windows has some business to take care of the drive heads will not have to travel quite as far. Just be sure to defragment often.

The best solution, by far, is 2 drives. The nice thing, if you're planning on only using the computer for recording, the first hard drive (for Windows) doesn't have to be incredibly large or fast. Save the fast, high capacity drive for recording.

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In reading your post in a little more detail, you're probably ok with a single drive (I still wouldn't partition it). Doing demo tracks with a POD and drum tracks isn't terribly taxing, unless you do a ton of overdubs.

For what it's worth, I use a similar system (specs here: http://studio.naughtybutterspoon.com/recording.html) for full band recording... 10+ tracks at a time (7 for drums, 2 for guitars, 1 for bass), then adding vocal/guitar solo/acoustic/keyboard overdubs, then mixing down often 15-20 tracks at a time. Never had any performance problems with that setup.

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Hey Guys - Thanks for all your help and advice

I've got my system and Im using the M-Audio Firewire 410 interface. I applied all the system tweaks found at www.musicxp.com and I've recorded a few fiffs using Nuendo 2, BFD, and Guitar Rig...

Now I've got a problem:- I have three audio tracks and one midi track for the drums. The riff is only 4 bars long (maybe like 10seconds) and now when I make another track and try to record another guitar riff, the whole system freezes. I can still hear myself playing, but it won't record anything and I have to manually turn the computer off to get out of Nuendo as I can't press stop on the toolbar. In the toolbar, the 'disc-cache' LED maxes out, but the CPU usage is barely even 1/4 the way up

A mate of mine is saying something about disabling hyper-threading in the BIOS / and that I should not have installed Service Pack 2 ...

What do you guys think? Any suggestions? Solutions?
I was told that the system I have would be capable of much more than this ;(
 

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metalguitarist7778 said:
Computer A Well I Would First Save Up A Little More Theirs A Thing That Is A Studio Thing That Hucks Up To Your Computer Its Awsome Buy That
Yeah thanks, very helpful!

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By the way, 'hucks' is not a word...

I appreciate everyone else's comments and ideas

**EDIT- deleted my comments toward 'metalguitarist7778'. I appreciate that this forum is kept flame free, and would rather keep it that way.
 

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Pat knup said:
Have you checked up wih m-audio and verified system requirements? Do you have all the proper drivers?
Yeah - I've installed all the latest drivers from their site, and my system is well over their minimum requirements.

I tried turning off hyper threading and it has made no difference. As soon as I make a fourth audio track, Neuendo won't even 'play'...

It frustrates me as the other guitarist has Neuendo on his computer and has no problems at all, and his set-up is nowhere near the specs mine is...
 

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chopvai said:
can you get me a firewire 410 for $500 BUCKS TOO? hehe

im in melbourne :p
hahaha!
Sorry dude, I told them this one was for me - I'm not likely to buy two for myself!

However - I have a friend that works at Turramurra Music who has one he's selling for $650 and its about 2 months old - PM and I'll pass on your details if you're interested - try and talk him down a little!!!...
 

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O.K... I just rang the computer place I bought the system from and he said that the Firwire PCI card they installed was a generic $25 card... I'm guessing that will probably be my problem....

I'm going to swap for a better one tomorrow (Adaptec I think it was????)

Any thoughts/ideas? I really hope that this solves my issue ;(
 

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O.K... I just rang the computer place I bought the system from and he said that the Firwire PCI card they installed was a generic $25 card... I'm guessing that will probably be my problem....

I'm going to swap for a better one tomorrow (Adaptec I think it was????)

Any thoughts/ideas? I really hope that this solves my issue ;(
See if you can contact M-Audio and verify what firewire chipset is required/recommended for their stuff. That's usually a huge factor when it comes to problem-free firewire operation. Though you should be safe with Adaptec's stuff. They're more expensive, but usually the most reliable in operation.

Different FW chipsets: Texas Instruments, NEC, Orange Micro (I think)

While I agree that AMD is the best bang for a buck these days (unless we're talking laptops) I think the P4 will do fine too.
 

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Well I heard back from M-Audio and a complete re-install of the driver and software etc seems to have done the trick

I think i'll hold off on the firewire card upgrade for now as the system seems to be working just fine - I'd rather spend the $100 on a decent desk I think anyway...

Thanks to all who contributed for their help and suggestions!
 
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