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No.... not as bad as it sounds. I was just wondering about a certain mod I have been toying with. I love Ibanez guitars, I like my Jem jr and have been thinking about a Jem77BFP or some of the other beautiful Ibanez guitars.
However, I really don't want an Edge tremolo. If I had to have a whammy bar I would lean towards something like that on a Strat. In other words I just don't want locking strings. If one breaks I want to be able to change it on the fly.
Also the Gravity Storm and other Dimarzio pups are hotter than what I would like. I wouldn't mind some low output humbuckers. On there.
Now I know some of you will think sacrilege, it's like taking a Ferrari and swapping the engine for a rotary one. Why don't I just buy a Gibson or a fender? Because I like everything about the Ibanez guitars, but I am really craving the low output humbucker sound and I want to be able to change my strings quickly if need be!

Has anyone ever done a swap like this, or have any thoughts other than to call me nutz? :)

Thanks.
 

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you could block the trem (free with a bottle cap) and then change pickups but you're chasing something to make an Ibanez into an axe it won't ever be. If you're buying a guitar i'd suggest just looking for a fixed-bridge axe... not only Ibanez but every other brand in your price range.
 

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Maybe I should just get that Strat with the 3 Seymour Duncan mini humbuckers from 920D and call it a day (and then when my wife's not looking get a blue Ibanez :) )
 

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I completely get the idea behind this, I find the looks and feel of a JEM to be really inspiring, but sometimes you can want a different sound.

I say that you should just go for it.

There are several ways to block a trem, from the “tremel-no” device to a bit of wood, to a bottle cap ;). And fitting a pair of pickups is an easy enough job, with many companies offering colours and styles that will let you keep the look, but really change the sound!

And having heard a Mazda 787 up real close, there is nothing wrong with dumping the Ferrari V8 in favour of a rotary :D
 

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It's a Jem-Jr, just sell it and go buy a guitar with a stop tail, I'm not surprised you can't get on with the tremolo and those INF pickups don't sound great either.
 

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It's a Jem-Jr, just sell it and go buy a guitar with a stop tail, I'm not surprised you can't get on with the tremolo and those INF pickups don't sound great either.
Actually I really LIKE THE Jem Jr. It was signed and decorated by Steve Vai because believe it or not, I WON it from Amazon! In fact I couldn't wait to try it so I played it lightly for a few minutes and promptly rubbed off part of Vai so the signature for the most part said just Steve. Hey... who signed your guitar? Oh "Steve" did... :D I was able to then get him to re-sign it (or that was my plan) unfortunately for a variety of reasons he was hurried and misunderstood my intentions so now I likely have the only guitar in the world signed by "Steve Steve Vai"!
 

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There are several ways to block a trem, from the "tremel-no" device to a bit of wood, to a bottle cap ;).

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Actually I don't mind the vibrato arm, I just don't like the locking strings. This means that I have to bring 2 guitars to a gig instead of just one. Really that's the big issue for me, other than the humbucker thang.
 

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If you want to switch between fixed bridge and floating double-locker you need two guitars. Just recognize that no way around it sorry.

The Jr is an ok candidate (if you kept it) to fix the bridge since the trem is meh and it won't fetch much in resale. At that point finding pickups you like at a decent price is not a terrible idea. You can use the locking nut & fine tuners to improve tuning also if you don't detune as a hardtail. You can also expand the pickup selection options such as putting in a coil-split or parallel switch including push/pull pots. Good luck.
 

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the biggest issue i see is the body wood...les pauls are made of mahogany whereas most jems are not...even a les paul pickup will sound different in basswood than it does in mahogany...suggestion? get the premium mahogany jem and start with that as your base...block the trem and pit in a pair of burstbuckers or equivalent and you should be good to go...d.m.
 

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The EAFX is the best modding platform ever, all ya gotta do is sharpie out the Vai/Earth graphic and you've got an awesome guitar!
"Best modding platform ever"... maybe if you want a Steve Vai styled real hardtail and no luthier work it's your only option but as a modding platform.... it's basswood, has a huge monkey grip cutout, shred neck, pickups not universally loved (the breed) but most crucial not many made or available (2 sold in last 2 years on reverb for just over $1200). I think it's safe to say the JEM/Vai super-fans who would consider buying an EAFX won't sharpie out a $1300 axe after waiting months to find one (maybe put a sticker over the earth graphic keeping it's value intact). From a neutral buyer perspective, if you want an Ibanez hardtail you could find several dozens for $1300 immediately new and used & much cheaper too MIJ. YMMV.
 

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the biggest issue i see is the body wood...les pauls are made of mahogany whereas most jems are not...even a les paul pickup will sound different in basswood than it does in mahogany...suggestion? get the premium mahogany jem and start with that as your base...block the trem and pit in a pair of burstbuckers or equivalent and you should be good to go...d.m.
I can only second that, as the wood has a big impact on the sound, but the glued neck and the smaller scale have an impact too.
With a JEM you will not even be able to approach the guitar I bought for my company (yes you read well): LTD EC 256 cobalt blue at around 400€ it sounds like a les paul even with crappy pickups inside
 

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No.... not as bad as it sounds. I was just wondering about a certain mod I have been toying with. I love Ibanez guitars, I like my Jem jr and have been thinking about a Jem77BFP or some of the other beautiful Ibanez guitars.
However, I really don't want an Edge tremolo. If I had to have a whammy bar I would lean towards something like that on a Strat. In other words I just don't want locking strings. If one breaks I want to be able to change it on the fly.
Also the Gravity Storm and other Dimarzio pups are hotter than what I would like. I wouldn't mind some low output humbuckers. On there.
Now I know some of you will think sacrilege, it's like taking a Ferrari and swapping the engine for a rotary one. Why don't I just buy a Gibson or a fender? Because I like everything about the Ibanez guitars, but I am really craving the low output humbucker sound and I want to be able to change my strings quickly if need be!

Has anyone ever done a swap like this, or have any thoughts other than to call me nutz? :)

Thanks.
I have put burstbucker pros into my RG350DXZ and it kicks arse. The wiring wasn't straightforward as the BBPros are 2wire HB's but I had it sorted. No coil tapping because coil taps are too thin.

Trems and string changes are always an issue and that won't change unless you do a wholesale tremel-no type arrangement. Regardless, the string change will still be a PITA, due to the nut.

in all honesty, it'd be less hassle to just buy an LP or LP copy, and put the 57 classic humbuckers, cts 500K pots and 0.022µf orange drops, OIP's or bumblebees in it.

I've done these mods and others before, and I've never been disappointed, but I also knew exactly what sound I was looking for.

DiMarzio PAF's or 36th anniversary paf's, SD antiquity's or boutiquey stuff like bare knuckle, or really high-end kinman HX's are all going to get you there, but at a cost. Sometimes more than a genuine Gibson BB Pro or Classic57 set.

For really quick string changes, I fit a TP-6 tailpiece to my LP and it is super quick, especially with locking tuners. less than 10 seconds.
 
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