Dude do a search on the forum using the search feature of jemsite... there has been so many discussions on the topic, you will get more answers searching then just being lazy and asking people to post links for you...

Plus it takes years of practise to swirl properly and you wont be getting any real help because there is a secret code to some swirlers who have their own techniques, use a certain type or brand of paint etc...

Just to show you how easy it is to find out information for yourself I typed in google "how to swirl a guitar" and here is the findings..

Talk about lazy

http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&sou...q=how+to+swirl+a+guitar&meta=&aq=f&oq=how+to+swirl+a+guitar&fp=2bcf0a553a95b437

 

ive been searching the whole day on google but most of the stuff i find is too vague

 

Well I hate to tell you but you probably wont get much better than vague on this topic. On a few with much experience can actually make awesome swirls, and they wont easily give you their secrets. My best advice is take that vague info you get and start swirling! Best way to learn is to practice.

 

thanks

 

with paint?

 

No with Ketchup and Mustard....

 

ur funny

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Calm down dude.

Try googling marbling instead of swirling. The actual art technique is called marbling and there are plently of books out there on the subject. Hit up your library.

 

ill give it a try

 

empire 0895 - if you don't get the Mustard Ketchup and Relish joke you need to stop posting and start reading the forum.

Regardless you need to chill out.

 

ya i get the joke sorry mr.moderator

 

 

i lol'd.

 

Here are my trials - It will give you a good place to start. I have not had time to play lately to go any further - but it should help you understand. As others have said - you really won't get answers out of the successful swirlers. I am anxious to be one of those successfull swirlers as I AM going to let the cat out of the bag...until then, all I can do is post my trials. Others have chimed in on it as well...

http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f18/swirling-adventure-details-as-i-discover-them-94998.html

 

Is there any way to create a seperate topic on here of "Swirls" and put al lthe posts realted to it in there? Might help reduce the same questions getting the same answers...

I don't get how people can say they do a search and get nothing??? But it might recude the reduant posts on the topic?

Might be a pain to do, I figured Iw ould throw it out there. It seems to be a hot topic that comes and goes...

 

sounds like oil based enamels are the best thing to be using

i think?

 

Well - it's what people are using...I have a theory on different ones that is totally opposite. I've already typed it too many times, and no one seems to comment on it. So either they don't care, or don't think it will work.

To sum it up - ATD also swirled fabric / shirts. Try using oil based enamels to do that and see if you could wear it or wash it. And how likely is it that he got this to work with 2 differnet types of paints, and match the colors exactly? I personally don't think he used oil based enamels...

But if your getting results you are happy with - then who cares I guess?

 

So what is your theory? I always up for trying something new. I have done well with enamels however..

 

rodzo,

I'm I'm not corrected you had yuor best results with the testers paint right?

 

empire0895 - Correct, Testers are what worked best for me. I have not tried my Humbrol yet, but have tried HOK, Rustoleum, and One Shot.

dgbaker33 - My Theory are fabric paints. Screen printing paints - something along that line. I have had confirmation for 2 now that they have been using screen printing paints. And their swirls look great.

Like I said however, I guess it doesn't really matter - find what works for you, and go with it. Even if I figure out what paints ATD used, doesn't mean I'm going to be able to buy them and produce swirls like his!

 

did you use the fabric marbling paint from dharmatrading ?

 

and also , which testors enamel did you use beacause there is
-American FS enamel
-Railroad Enamel
-Car and Truck Enamel
-testors enamel
-international military and figure enamel paint

heres the link- http://www.testors.com/category/135894/Enamel_Paints

 

empire0895 - the testors I used were the OLD school ones from way back when. Just the basic colors in the short square bottles with a basic white label on them. Since your link doesn't show the bottles, I couldn't tell you which ones. They were not the round bottles, I can tell you that.

As for fabric paint, no not from there. I got them from a local art Store...Jacquard or something like that? They might sell that at the above place, I forget. It says it's for fabric, airbrushing, marbling, and other things.

Still have not tried it yet - refinishing the basement, and that has been taking my time. Want to get ti done before the nice weather hits - if it ever does!

 

Dharmatrading does indeed sell the Jacquard Airbrush paint. It even sells them right in their marbling section.

 

The only other thing I need to get is the water conditioner stuff...that thickens it up. It's just expensive, and I have not had the time yet...the Carageenan...expensive in the realm of enough to mix with 55g of water that is...Mthocel is a less expensive substitute. I don't think it lasts as long however. The Carageenan I think can be mixed, do some swirls, put a lid on your tub, and use more - not sure how long though.

Both are methods I think worth looking into. If anyone here has tried - let me know. I don't think anyone has because it sounds like a lot of extra work - and they jsut want to get dipping!

 

I have looked into this also. The Carageenan is the only reason i didnt give it a try. It would be an expensive experiment... When i had Herc swirl a guitar for me years ago, i tried to pick his brain. This was the only thing he would give up(and alum?) I believe that his and OTS stuff may be done this way. Just looks like it....More controlled than my stuff for sure. I do like the chaos i get also....

 

I think that ATD must of used the type of materials your talking about, as you sure could not mix blood with red enamel paint could you.

 

ive also read a thread which Patrick Sims Custom Shop commented on and they said they were experimenting with those and if you go to there website and look at there swirls there pretty awesome