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Pinch harmonic problem!!!

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#1 ·
Guys im new in dis community!! I wanted to ask....if the strings are too close to the fret board or the PUP does it effect how well ur pinch harmonics give out!! Or make it harder to give a screaming pinch harmonic??????
 
#3 ·
It could be a number of things.

You EQ on your gear, try adding treble little bit at a time. pulling the Mids too much can really have an affect on them.
String Height like above post. or even pickup height.
Pickup output.
Try adding more gain or distortion or over drive. May Help out. May Not. :/
Amp and cables ( cheaper ones DO restrict output as I have found out.. )
Technique? certain areas on the strings where the "Pinch" happens can do it too. Try finding all the spots where a Pinch can come from in that area. usually next to a pick up. You will know when you start hitting them just right, the pitch will get higher and you tend to get more "Bite" out of it. Once you found it, try it see what happens.

But it's not my guitar and you cant show me and I have no idea what kind of rig you got. I assume you have an Ibanez lol.
 
#4 ·
If your action is too low, you might find that the strings buzz off of some of the frets. This can attenuate some of the lower harmonics, giving more of a treble sound. To improve harmonic response, try a slightly higher action coupled with either heavier gauge strings or if that’s not an option, try down tuning as this will lower your fundamental and increase the harmonics.
Then you want to decrease your dynamic range. The most common way is to use distortion. Compression can be used. Basically by reducing the dynamic range, the quiet parts sound louder which means it should be easier to perform pinch harmonics.
Try using a hard pick; grip it close to the end. Then try picking the string in different places to find a desirable harmonic. When you pick, let your thumb touch the string (only slightly) as the string slips of the pick.
 
#6 ·
This is my question on pinch harmonics. I have an ibanez rg 570, basswood body, maple neck with bubinga, rosewood fingerboard and Edge trem. The guitar came with a dimarzio tone zone in the bridge. The pinch harmonics worked well with that but the low end was a little too flubby for me.

I replaced the tone zone with a duncan distortion. The pickup has great high output and tone, but it's much more difficult to get a wide variety of squealing pinch harmonics and when I do pinch harmonics they don't and they revert back to the natural string . The pinch harmonics die out and don't sustain.

Is it the pickup, the basswood body, or? If you think it's the pickup, what other pickups would you recommend for zakk Wylde screamin pinch harmonics? I use them a lot.

Also, my technique is good.

I also have an ibanez rgt42fm with stock inf2 pickup in the bridge position. It's a rather low gain pickup and doesn't sound nearly as good as the duncan distortion but I can get screamin harmonics all day long.

I have a problem with the rgt because the trem system isn't very good and doesn't stay in tune. That's why I switched to the rg550 with the edge trem system.

Back to the problem with my rg550 and problem with pinch harmonics. Is it the pickup, guitar or ?

Please let me know your thoughts and ideas.
 
#7 ·
This is my question on pinch harmonics. I have an ibanez rg 570, basswood body, maple neck with bubinga, rosewood fingerboard and Edge trem. The guitar came with a dimarzio tone zone in the bridge. The pinch harmonics worked well with that but the low end was a little too flubby for me.

I replaced the tone zone with a duncan distortion. The pickup has great high output and tone, but it's much more difficult to get a wide variety of squealing pinch harmonics and when I do pinch harmonics they don't and they revert back to the natural string . The pinch harmonics die out and don't sustain.

Is it the pickup, the basswood body, or? If you think it's the pickup, what other pickups would you recommend for zakk Wylde screamin pinch harmonics? I use them a lot.

Also, my technique is good.

I also have an ibanez rgt42fm with stock inf2 pickup in the bridge position. It's a rather low gain pickup and doesn't sound nearly as good as the duncan distortion but I can get screamin harmonics all day long.

I have a problem with the rgt because the trem system isn't very good and doesn't stay in tune. That's why I switched to the rg550 with the edge trem system.

Back to the problem with my rg550 and problem with pinch harmonics. Is it the pickup, guitar or ?

Please let me know your thoughts and ideas.
This is a remarkable coincidence. A long time ago (15-16 years), I had the exact same guitar and swapped the stock V8 for a Duncan Distortion and pinch harmonics became harder to play. (They were easier with the stock V8.) I ended up swapping out the Duncan Distortion for a Dimarzio Tone Zone in the bridge position and I assume that remedied the problem because I kept the Tone Zone and never really gave pinch harmonics another thought. Like I said, it is a coincidence, but a remarkable one.

If you can get pinch harmonics without the amp, then you are doing your part. Harmonics of all types are plentiful with the Dimarzio EVO bridge pickup. Very plentiful! :wink:
 
#8 ·
Definitely quite the coincidence!

I can get pinch harmonics on the rg570 unplugged but I'm still having a tough time getting the higher squealies when unplugged and amplified. I raised the action a bit, and that seemed to help but the pinch harmonics don't sustain very well.

Any other suggestions for the setup of the guitar to get better pinch harmonics?

The EVO has been mentioned to me before and so has the invader, X2N, and of course EMG's.

On the pickup hunt I go!

Any further response would be greatly appreciated.
 
#9 ·
Definitely quite the coincidence!

I can get pinch harmonics on the rg570 unplugged but I'm still having a tough time getting the higher squealies when unplugged and amplified. I raised the action a bit, and that seemed to help but the pinch harmonics don't sustain very well.

Any other suggestions for the setup of the guitar to get better pinch harmonics?

The EVO has been mentioned to me before and so has the invader, X2N, and of course EMG's.

On the pickup hunt I go!

Any further response would be greatly appreciated.
One of the best ways to learn what your guitar is capable of is by letting someone else play it, ideally someone who you trust to is able to get the most out of your instrument which includes your amp. If they struggle as well, they may have more informed ideas on what needs to change. In general, gain and compression are the friends of harmonics, but so is a good set-up. Lastly, I was babysitting a Jackson Soloist (for about 6 years) with a Dimebucker in the bridge. It is a terrible pickup until you dial out all of the Mids on your amp, just like Dimebag Darrel. When you did that, harmonics were easy anywhere on the fretboard. I think that pickup must have an extremely weird EQ curve because the effect was abnormally profound. Perhaps other Seymour/Duncan pickups are similar. Good luck!
 
#10 ·
Thanx for your response.

I'm going to take the rg570 back to the shop later this week and myself and the tech are going to play it and see what we come up with.

I'm also going to have them check the setup, fret leveling and intonation.

It's been suggested that I put the dimarzio tone zone back in and add a capacitor between the red hot wire and pickup selector to filter out the low end frequencies a bit and make the pickup less muddy.

This is the capacitor that was recommended.

Ceramic .001 Microfarad Treble Bleed Capacitor.

I'm going to put the duncan distortion in another guitar and see how it responds.

I play through a Marshall JCM900 Half Stack with a keeley mod boss SD-1.

I'll try dialing the mids out of the amp and see what happens.

Please let me know your thoughts, ideas and opinions on all this.

Thanx again.

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